Up until now a lot of my feedback has come
from training providers and the WKO but while they have all given me their
perception of the employers and students viewpoint I haven’t had many
opportunities to confirm this.
So, I’ve created a very simple survey tool
that i will circulate to employers and their workplace students to see if I can
gather some direct observations. To protect their privacy I will not record who
said what in this document. It will simply summarise the viewpoints.
I will
only make edits to ensure readability.
Survey
Survey questions for employers and workplace students
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These
questions relate to students completing mandatory work placements while they
are enrolled in a formal course of study with a VET college or University.
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The
questions are designed to be answered by students or their workplace
supervisors/trainers/mentors
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This survey data
will be used to assist me in my study tour to understand the workplace
requirements of students in the Austrian education system.
All results will be
maintained as anonymous and privacy protected.
How frequently do workplace
supervisors/managers/mentors communicate with teachers?
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Some very often, some less. This depends of the interest of
the workplace-mentor.
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However, those communications are very seldom curriculum
related.
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The curriculum is given by the government.
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Most of the times the mentors communicate about the
performance of the student.
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It is in the interest of both (school-teacher and workplace
mentor) to be updated about the behaviour and the performance of the student.
Therefore many stay in touch.
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Managers and School-Principals meet on a very different
basis. This is then more to discuss needs of the schools ... compare to
Industry needs .. and if necessary take those needs to the local government to
find cooperative financing of equipment.
How do workplace
supervisors/managers/mentors communicate with teachers? meetings, reports,
informal conversations....
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All of the above.
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Mentors and teachers very often with mail or phone. ( best
way to inform about behaviour or performance ) sometimes personal contact (
meetings ) in school.
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Managers and principals in formal meetings.
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In our state we also have a "Student evaluates the
teacher" feedback system. This is on a yearly basis presented as a report
to both .. workplace and school.
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This report shows how a teacher in school or a mentor at work
is graded by the students ( fairness, competence etc... )
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This takes great trust and very good cooperation between
school and workplace... and not all feel the same way.
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However, it is also a tool to bring school and workplace
together. The common goal of both institutes is the positive development of the
student.
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In many cases this goal is taken very seriously and the
cooperation between both, workplace and school is .. .let's say .. well
respected.
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We both understand that it strongly depends on the people
involved .... some cooperate better than others.
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However, efforts to work together are always very visible.
What workplace supervision arrangements are
provided for students?
Do students have a mentor?
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Depends
on your definition of "mentor".
Students have a designated trainer at the workplace. Call it mentor,
call it trainer ... in all ways .. it is
a "psychological parent" figure ... if that is what you mean ?
Are there formal workplace trainers that
support the student in conjunction with the teachers at the schools
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in many companies .. .yes. I can not speak for all .. but most companies
offer something like an "extra tuition" .. or private lessons. Now ..
this can be your designated trainer, this can be a hired person ... that
depends on the company the student works for.
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We must however understand... we
have a very clear split of training and teaching contents. –
o Workplace ..... practical work ,
o school .... well ... math, writing, accounting ..... in most
cases not skills "directly" related to the task on the job ... more
the general knowledge and background understanding if you will.
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Therefore it is not always easy for a good
workplace mentor to support a student in "school stuff" for many
trainers most of the school topics lie waaay back ... and if not really needed
on the job, some of these skills go a bit in the background.
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I am sure you understand what I
mean when you relate to your kids when you support them with their homework. I
know that I learned all the names of the different rivers in my state, the
names of all mountains and valleys ... however ... I would have a hard time to
name them all today ... or point out where they are.
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Even though I think it is
important to learn such things at one point about your country ... most of that
space in our brain will then be taken over by other knowledge .. .stuff that
you do on a regular basis.
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What remains is a general
understanding.
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This may be the reason that such
school related-coaching is sometimes conducted by the workplace trainer himself
( if he still feels confident about the topic ) .. or it may be
"outsorced" ... if you know what I mean.
Are there any formal workplace
assessments to be completed?
Heavily
depends on the Company where the apprentice is hired.
it is not a
"legal" requirement, hoever, some companies implement such
"practical tests" practical means .... building something, not a
written assessment. they have enough written assessments in school ;o)
Are there formal assessment documents that need
to be completed by the employer to record the students knowledge and skills?
Yes, there is
a governmental record we have to keep. but this is veeery simply kept.
How much time does the student spend in the
workplace? Weeks/ year or weeks/ whole course.
we have
basically two systems.
a) 4 days / week at work + 1 day in School
b) 10 weeks school in one block ... the rest
of the year at the workplace.
What percentage of the total course does the
workplace time cover?
see above, so it is an approx. Ratio of 4 to 1
What support services are available to students
while they are working?
What learning resources are provided to
students during their course eg textbooks, study notes etc
All that is needed, this is in the hands of
the schools ;o)
Do students have access to online resources to
help you with their course?
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I get the impression .. that you have the impression... that
we have a "school-System"
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Please understand that when an apprentice is hired, the
company takes the responsibility of teaching all technical aspects of the skill
... and the school takes the responsibility of the academic issues.
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Even though Schoolteachers and Workplace mentors cooperate,
there are two different responsibilities.
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The Majority of the time ( 4 days ) is spent at work ... and
1 day of the week is academic in school.
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Sometimes the Workplace mentor needs to help or push the
student a bit in academic issues.
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But Please understand the two different responsibilities. That
may be like a Math teacher and an English Teacher. Both teach the student but
in different aspects.
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It seems that the basic understanding of apprenticeship in
our cultures are totally different. We select an apprentice, register the
apprentice with the Dept. of Labor and the School. The government tells us the
minimum requirements we have to teach at the workplace.
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There is a Mid-Term exam ... ( practical an Oral .... build a
Workpiece and have an oral exam about practical issues of the job)
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At the end there is again the final exam, in the same way but
at a higher level.
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The school is "seperately" ... if a student fails
the academic.... he/she has to repeat the school exam
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Compare it to the driving licence.
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One Part is responsible for teaching and also test the
Theoretical knowledge. Another part is responsible for teaching and practicing
the driving in different situations ( dark, rain, Autobahn, moutains etc... ) and
the also tests the student at the exam.
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in the end .. the student needs BOTH exam to get the drivers
licence. ;o)
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I also think that the following questions are all
"school" related ...
Are students able to submit
assessments online to their teachers for marking?
What types of assessments do students need to
complete in their course? Essays, reports, research projects, practical
projects, theory tests...
What do you think are the strengths of the courses you are involved with?
What do you think are the weaknesses or opportunities for improvement in the
courses you are involved with?
Are students able to do an International exchange as a part of their course?
If yes, what are the most popular destinations? Why?
Can you recommend any other employers or students that you think I should talk
to?